Category: Three Fifths Representation

Johnny Reb and Gus Yank Revisit Mount Horeb: Jefferson Davis

10/2/2019

Johnny Reb and Gus Yank RMH: Jefferson Davis

Part 9 of 13

“ … An event.”
“Reb?”
“Yeah Yank.”
“I’ve been meaning to ask you something?”
“Ask.”
“How did representation work in the Confederate Constitution?”
“Almost the same as the Union.”
“Almost?”
“Like the US one, the Confederate Constitution stipulated representation according to numbers.”
“What number?”
“One Representative for every fifty Thousand.”
“So the Confederacy used the number found in Article the first of the Bill of Rights.”
“Correct.”
“Enumeration?”
“On paper.”
“Never happened?”
“War happened.”
“Did the Confederacy keep the three fifths clause?”
“With an edit.”
“What edit?”
“Instead of saying ‘three fifths of all other Persons,’ the Confederate Constitution changed other Persons to slaves.”
“Telling.”
“Says a lot.”
“And we can say Jefferson Davis knew more about ‘Merican representation than Tell-Lie-Vision does.”
“Yes.”
“Are those cannon?”
“I think so …”

*Next Up: 3 October and part 10 of Johnny Reb and Gus Yank Revisit Mount Horeb: Thomas Sumpter (also Sumter).

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Johnny Reb and Gus Yank On Our Way: Mount Horeb

3/22/2019

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Johnny Reb and Gus Yank OOW: Mount Horeb

Part XIII of XIII

“… How’s this?”
“Feels like home.”
“Welcome home Gus.”
“Welcome home Johnny.”
“There wasn’t a horse before.”
“No?”
“It was people conveying the man.”
“Was there a child?”
“Yes.”
“Slave?”
“Represented.”
“Slavery, it means both: slaves and slavers.”
“Yup.”
“You bring the flag Reb?”
“I thought you did.”
“Not me.”
“Well then.”
“Well then what?”
“Let’s rally ‘round it.”
“Mount Horeb style.”
“Worked before.”
“Did.”

Thanks All!

*Next Up: Usurpation Day 2019.

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Thereat: Gus Kotka and Johnny Reb, On Our Way Not Tumid

10/29/2017

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Gus Kotka and Johnny Reb Thereat Events

VI of XIII

“About the gain Reb?”
“Yes.”
“The states weren’t sectional about Article the first.”
“Correct.”
“You said states as different as South Carolina and Vermont passed the amendment.”
“They did.”
“We the People was alive and well.”
“I hear ya Yank.”
“And then in 70 years, them two states, South Carolina and Vermont, they was at war.”
“And all the others.”
“Why didn’t people in our time see that?”
“People get sideways Gus.”
“Lost.”
“And then they create a way again.”
“Back into constitutionalism.”
“That’s the promise; it’ll be like this Gus.”
“Like what?”
“Look ahead of us.”
“Okay.”

Gus Kotka and Johnny Reb Thereat Great

“Hear that?”
“No.”
“That’s the sound of a sun rise.”
“Sunrises are great.”
“The sound of greatness is not tumid.”
“Does tumid mean bombastic?”
“It does.”
“Great is sound timelessness.”
“That’s the same sun that we witnessed in April 1861.”
“Reb?”
“Yeah.”
“We were not smart.”
“Say more.”
“We didn’t really read the Constitution.”
“Morgan would agree.”
“And for not defending We the People.”
“We let a fraction tear our We apart.”
“We were slaves to an idea Johnny.”
“Slaves to the usurpation.”

Gus Kotka and Johnny Reb Thereat Dew

“So great moments are quiet moments?”
“‘The dew falls on the grass when the night is most silent.’”
“I like the sound of that.”
“A German’s words, someone from our time.”
“Nice.”
“He also said: ‘It is the stillest words that bring on the storm. Thoughts that come on doves’ feet guide the world.’”
“So if states like South Carolina and Vermont started asking questions …”
“… The usurpers would have to give answers.”
“They couldn’t be silent, could they?”
“Not like the dew.”
“So any of the eleven states that have passed Article the first could ask?”
“Any state can ask questions Gus.”
“And asking questions is basic.”
“It is the traditional right of the free.”
“A right we should have used better, back in our day Johnny.”
“Agreed Yank.”

*Hempoween Up Next: A celebratory note on Tuesday, 31 October, Toast Them Hemp Seeds This Hempoween.

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Summer Union 2016: Johnny Reb and Gus Kotka Nowhere Hey You

8/6/2016

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Johnny Reb and Gus Kotka Nowhere High

Part 7 of 13

“… caused the war Gus.”
“I hear ya Reb, it wasn’t just a law.”
“No, slavery was constitutional.”
“Three-fifths plus three-fifths.”
“How’s that?”
“That makes six-fifths."
“Okay.”
“As you can see,” Gus continued, “that’s more than one.”
“Right.”
“So two slaves counted as a bit more than one free person.”
“Well said.”
“That’s why it wasn’t just that slavery was legal.”
“Higher.”
“It was that slaves counted, at the constitutional rate of two for one.”

Johnny Reb and Gus Kotka Nowhere Heart

“Yes Gus.”
“That’s the heart of the matter.”
“Again yes.”
“The good and bad of slavery wasn’t the point.”
“That worked well to get the people fired up.”
“Divided us.”
“With the real power –”
“Hey Reb?”
“What?”
“It’s like the morality of slavery was the feint force.”
“I get ya.”
“While the real force (power) is in this math no one ever talked about?”

Johnny Reb and Gus Kotka Nowhere Help

“Correct Gus.”
“Okay.”
“Everyone got caught up in the right and wrong of slavery.”
“And we overlooked the Constitution.”
“That’s never good.”
“Hardly Johnny.”
“It can work awhile.”
“Even look like it’s working.”
“Right Gus.”
“But all things go back to their source.”
“They sure do.”

Next Up: The Union 2016 summer series continues on Thursday 11 August with part 8, Johnny Reb and Gus Kotka Nowhere Is There.

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Summer Union 2016: Johnny Reb and Gus Kotka Nowhere Moon Dark Side

7/30/2016

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Johnny Reb and Gus Kotka Nowhere Moon

Part 6 of 13

On a piece of ground in your home town

“How’s this Gus?”
“Better.”
“The thirty Thousand -”
“Johnny,” interrupted Gus, “that 30,000 we've been kicking around.”
“Yes.”
“We had a census in 1860, just like the Constitution says.”
“We did.”
“And that census said we had over 30 million people.”
“True Yank.”
“So what happened?”

Johnny Reb and Gus Kotka Nowhere Dark

“What do you mean?”
“Well,” Gus offered, “30 million divided by 30,000 is kind of easy math.”
“It is.”
“So it ciphers to 1,000 federal districts.”
“Yes.”
“So that’s 1,000 federal Representatives in 1860.”
“True, but not real.”
“What’s that mean?”
“Usurpation.”
“Theft?”

Johnny Reb and Gus Kotka Nowhere Side

“Yes, in the form of stolen representation Gus: Congress stopped obeying the Constitution.”
“Couldn’t follow orders ‘eh?”
“You got it.”
“How many Reps were there in 1860 Johnny?”
“There were 241 Gus.”
“And four million slaves.”
“True.”
“So using the three fifths clause, slaves would have equaled 2.4 million free people.”
“Yes.”
“Which meant a bunch of Representatives representing slaves.”
“There would have been 80.”
“That’s a lot Johnny.”
“It caused the war Gus.”
“The issue of slavery?”
“The issue of constitutional representation of slaves …”

Next Up: Thursday 4 August and a 2020, Defining a Conservative-Liberal Via John Kass and Eric Zorn of the Chicago Tribune.

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Summer Union 2016: Johnny Reb and Gus Kotka Nowhere Three-Fifths

6/26/2016

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Johnny Reb and Gus Kotka Nowhere Three

Part 2 of 13

“… In our approach to representation and We the People, would that help Gus?”
“Use the slave fraction.”
“Yes.”
“You’re saying,” Gus summed, “that we could use the three-fifths clause to understand free people.”
“Right.”
“How so?”
“Three-fifths implies sixty percent of something.”
“Sure does.”
“Of what?”
“That’s the fraction friction you keep at Reb.”
“The representation ratio Gus.”
“Which is?”

Johnny Reb and Gus Kotka Nowhere Fifths

“Thirty Thousand.”
“So free people counted as 30,000.”
“Sort of.”
“How then?”
“The US Constitution says free people are to be represented at the rate of one Representative for every thirty Thousand people.”
“That’s what makes us a republic.”
“True.”
“So 100,000 slaves would have counted as 60,000 free people.”
“Yes.”
“That’s a big deal.”

Johnny Reb and Gus Kotka Nowhere Clause

“It was the deal that held the Constitutional Convention together.”
“It made us Reb.”
“Sure did.”
“Hey?”
“What?”
“These plants,” paused Gus, “there appears to be something in them.”
“In the sunflowers?”
“Yeah.”
“Sure is.”
“What ya’ figure?”
“That balancer we mentioned.”
“Balance to what?”
“Us and Tory Crown.”

Next Up: 1 July and Part One of the 7/20 Participation Day preparations (a day scheduled for Wednesday the 20th of July).

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